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Learn about the history of Lucerne, by walking and boat tour, and its love affair with chocolate on a 4-hour small group tour led by a local guide. See and learn how the chocolate is produced in Central Switzerland by visitng the most renowned chocolate Swiss Family company, you will sample the most delicious Swiss Chocolate in the Region. You'll also visit the most iconic landmarks in a very interesting walking tour around the most beautiful Swiss City. Round up your trip with a 1 hr. Boat experience around the gorgeous Lake Lucerne! Extend your chocolate tasting experience with an extra chocolate workshop and create your own 200 gr. chocolate bar! You’ll declare your creations “Swiss made” with pride.

Discover the classic Pilatus Silver afternoon Round Trip in a small group: Travel from Lucerne to Kriens and ascend Mount Pilatus by gondola and aerial cableway. At the summit, enjoy breathtaking views to the alps and over Lake Lucerne. Descend on the world’s steepest cogwheel railway and return to Lucerne by train — a perfectly balanced Swiss mountain experience in an intimate, small-group setting.

In this half-day trip, we will explore the most charming villages along Lake Lucerne — Weggis, Vitznau, and Gersau—strolling through picturesque streets, historic churches, and lakeside promenades. Along the way, we will pass areas closely linked to the origins of Switzerland and its rich traditions. In Vitznau, there is the optional opportunity to take a short cable car ride for panoramic views of the lake and Alps (ticket paid separately in cash on site). This experience combines scenic beauty, local culture, and unforgettable lakeside vistas, offering a perfect glimpse of Central Switzerland and its historic landscapes.

Discover the beauty of the Swiss countryside on this small-group farm and cheese tasting tour from Lucerne. Enjoy a scenic hike, ride a gondola to Sonnenberg peak (summer only), and visit a local farm to sample delicious cheeses made from fresh, local ingredients. With your personal guide, delve into Lucerne’s history and culture while enjoying stunning views that are often missed by typical tourists. This tour promises an intimate experience, perfect for families or groups of friends looking to explore the authentic flavors and landscapes of Switzerland. - Small group size ensures a perfect mix of fun and guidance - Includes cheese tasting at a local farm - Includes fresh milk and/apple juice - Duration of 3 hours, allowing ample time to explore and enjoy

This private day trip from Lucerne takes you into the heart of the Bernese Alps, visiting some of Switzerland’s most breathtaking mountain landscapes in one seamless journey. Travel comfortably in a premium vehicle with a professional driver while enjoying spectacular views along the way. Discover Interlaken between Lake Thun and Lake Brienz, explore the dramatic Lauterbrunnen Valley with its famous waterfalls and visit the alpine village of Grindelwald surrounded by the impressive peaks of the Jungfrau region. Unlike crowded group tours, this experience is fully private and flexible, allowing you to travel at your own pace, stop for photos and enjoy a relaxed door-to-door journey through some of Switzerland’s most iconic alpine scenery.

Experience the Swiss Alps like never before! Start with a scenic drive to Interlaken and Grindelwald, then ascend Mt. First for breathtaking views from the First Cliff Walk by Tissot. Choose from thrilling optional activities like the First Flyer zip line, Mountain Cart, or Trottibike, and explore the stunning Lauterbrunnen Valley with its dramatic cliffs and Staubbach Falls—all in a single unforgettable day.

Experience the majestic beauty of Switzerland’s Bernese Oberland on this full-day tour. Travel comfortably by bus through sparkling lakes, lush valleys, and snow-capped peaks, stopping in Interlaken, Grindelwald, and Lauterbrunnen. Capture postcard-perfect views of the Eiger, Mönch, and Jungfrau, stroll charming alpine villages, and marvel at stunning waterfalls. Perfect for nature lovers, photographers, and adventure seekers, this tour combines breathtaking scenery, cultural exploration, and unforgettable alpine experiences. Book now and make memories in the heart of the Swiss Alps!

Guided private city tour with the most important Lucerne sights. In addition, the non-tourist areas of the city are shown exclusively with local guides.

Cruise through typically Swiss villages and explore the hidden gems without the tourist crowd. The most unique and fun way for a discovery ride, even if it`s your first time on an e-bike.

Join me on a journey through Switzerland’s hidden gems, guided by my deep passion for nature and the mountains. your day with an early pick-up. , as we set off for an unforgettable hike in the Lucerne region. Our adventure features a 4-hour hike through stunning alpine landscapes, showcasing the best of the Swiss Alps. Along the way, we’ll enjoy a packed lunch amidst nature’s beauty. After the hike, we’ll relax by a beautiful lake. If the weather is favorable, you’ll have the chance to take a refreshing dip or enjoy a lakeside grill to conclude the day. Private Tour: For a more intimate experience, the private tour allows full customization. Tailor the hike and pace to your preferences for a day designed around you. Shared Group: For a social adventure, the shared tour accommodates up to 8 people. It’s perfect for exploring while meeting new friends. we ask that everyone keep a comfortable pace that suits the group. Book now for an unforgettable Swiss hiking experience!

Spectacular trip to the impressive glacier world on TITLIS. Come and visit our year-round winter wonderland. Mount TITLIS is the only publicly accessible glacier in the area. Cast your gaze over the surrounding mountains and valleys, and enjoy the stunning panoramic view. The new 8-seater gondola brings you from the Valley Station in Engelberg directly to the station Stand. From there you take the TITLIS ROTAIR, the world’s first revolving cable car, to the summit.

Lucerne Old Town tour with chocolate tastings in local confiseries – history meets sweet delight! Discover the timeless charm of Lucerne on a guided walking tour that blends culture, history, and indulgence. Stroll through the city’s most iconic landmarks, including the historic Chapel Bridge, the stunning Jesuit Church, and the impressive St. Leodegar Church. Along the way, you’ll stop at a selection of local confiseries—traditional Swiss chocolate shops—where you’ll sample a variety of handcrafted chocolates, from smooth pralines to unique seasonal specialties. This experience is perfect for curious travelers who want to explore Lucerne through both its sights and its flavors. - See landmarks such as Chapel Bridge, Jesuit Church, and St. Leodegar Church - Experience Lucerne’s Old Town through its rich history and delicious Swiss chocolate - Enjoy a small-group experience with an expert local guide

The highest hanggliding tandemflight in Switzerland. From up to 2000m you fly for 20-60 minutes like an eagle. Hang gliding is the best way to fly free like a bird. It is faster and more intense than paragliding. Whether fast and wild or just in peace, your pilot adapts to your wishes. The ride on the nostalgic funicular and the world first CabriO to Mt Stanserhorn is unique. The wonderful view from the summit over whole central Switzerland will inspire you. We gently take off into the third dimension. The silent flight over mountains and lakes will be an unforgettable experience.

Explore the stunning Swiss Alps on a private full-day tour from Zurich, visiting Grindelwald and Lauterbrunnen. With a local English-speaking driver, enjoy the charm of Grindelwald, the breathtaking waterfalls of Lauterbrunnen, and panoramic views of the Bernese Oberland. Customize your journey with Interlaken. This exclusive experience is perfect for small groups of 1–7 guests looking for a personalized alpine adventure. - Private tour with flexible itinerary for 1–7 guests - Explore Grindelwald and Lauterbrunnen at your own pace - Scenic drive with hotel pickup and drop-off in Zurich

This SELF-GUIDED trip allows you to combine the most popular mountain excursion of the Swiss, with a scenic boat ride and some relaxing hours at the Rigi Kaltbad Mineral Baths & Spa, which delivers an exclusive wellness experience surrounded by a legendary Alpine landscape. - After arriving in Vitznau, you can take the cogwheel train ascent to Rigi Kulm (departing every hour at xx:15) - Enjoy the 360-degree panoramas on Rigi Kulm, summit of the Rigi! Don't forget to discover the multiple photo points. - Take the train (departing every hour at xx:00) in direction of Vitznau, get off at Rigi Kaltbad, the world-class Kaltbad Mineralbad & Spa is just in front of you - Dip in and spend some relaxing hours in Mineral bath  - Take the next connecting train to Vitznau or cable car to Weggis

Enjoy a 2-hour paragliding excursion with a up to 20-minute tandem flight (depending flight option and weather conditions) in the beautiful mountains around the lake of Lucerne. See the breathtaking scenery of Mount Titlis, Brunni, Stanserhorn, Rigi and Pilatus from a birds-eye view. Your crew is made up of a group of professional tandem pilots trained in accordance with the Federal Office for Civil Aviation and insured by the Swiss Hang Gliding Association. Tour is limited to a maximum of four people per booking.

Enjoy a drive around some of the best countryside Switzerland has to offer.  Start your journey in your private and exclusive Mercedes Mini Van. Let Chris drive you along the Brunig Pass, stopping off at Lungernsee to reach the spectacular Bernese Oberland.  From there, choose the spectacular sights you want to visit ranging from the fascinating Aare Gorge which is 1’400 metres long and up to 200 metres deep. The Giessbach Falls are breath-taking as is the 150 year old Giessbach hotel for lunch overlooking Lake Brienz. Take a boat trip over to Brienz and stroll along Brungasse, one of Europe`s prettiest streets. Journey onto Interlaken for a souvenir stop and then go along the Lauterbrunnen valley to see the 300metre Staubbach Falls. Drive onto the Trummelbach Falls and witness waterfalls within a mountain and finally drive up to Isenfluh for some awesome views of the big 3 - Eiger, Mönch and Jungfrau or go one further and take the cable car to Sulwald for more incredible views.

*Operating from March 1, 2026 Short on time in Switzerland? Make the most of your day with this unforgettable tour! Travel in comfort in a modern van and explore four countries in one day. For private tour, please select only 1 person when booking. The tour will be exclusively for you, regardless of group size (up to 8). Start at the majestic Rhine Falls, where a short boat ride takes you close to the powerful cascades. Then stroll the charming streets and waterfront of Lindau, followed by a scenic visit to Bregenz on Lake Constance. Finally, explore Vaduz, the capital of Liechtenstein, with its colorful streets, Vaduz Castle, and the Cathedral of St. Florin. - Visit 4 countries: Switzerland, Germany, Austria & Liechtenstein - Boat ride at Rhine Falls for a close-up experience - Discover the towns of Lindau and Bregenz - Explore Vaduz Castle and Cathedral of St. Florin - Travel by comfortable van with hotel pickup and drop-off

Enjoy a 2-hour paragliding excursion with a up to 20-minute tandem flight (depending flight option and weather conditions) in the beautiful mountains around the lake of Lucerne. See the breathtaking scenery of Mount Titlis, Brunni, Stanserhorn, Rigi and Pilatus from a birds-eye view. Your crew is made up of a group of professional tandem pilots trained in accordance with the Federal Office for Civil Aviation and insured by the Swiss Hang Gliding Association. Tour is limited to a maximum of four people per booking.

Paragliding over the Swiss Alps is an incredible experience that every adventurous traveler should do. Unique views of the Lucerne region over lakes, rivers, valleys and Mountains. Tandem flight with professional pilots, experienced and oriented to the safety and fun of the passenger.

Discover the beauty of the Swiss countryside on this small-group farm and cheese tasting tour from Lucerne. Enjoy a scenic hike, ride a gondola to Sonnenberg peak (summer only), and visit a local farm to sample delicious cheeses made from fresh, local ingredients. With your personal guide, delve into Lucerne’s history and culture while enjoying stunning views that are often missed by typical tourists. This tour promises an intimate experience, perfect for families or groups of friends looking to explore the authentic flavors and landscapes of Switzerland. - Small group size ensures a perfect mix of fun and guidance - Includes cheese tasting at a local farm - Includes fresh milk and/apple juice - Duration of 3 hours, allowing ample time to explore and enjoy

This private day trip from Lucerne takes you into the heart of the Bernese Alps, visiting some of Switzerland’s most breathtaking mountain landscapes in one seamless journey. Travel comfortably in a premium vehicle with a professional driver while enjoying spectacular views along the way. Discover Interlaken between Lake Thun and Lake Brienz, explore the dramatic Lauterbrunnen Valley with its famous waterfalls and visit the alpine village of Grindelwald surrounded by the impressive peaks of the Jungfrau region. Unlike crowded group tours, this experience is fully private and flexible, allowing you to travel at your own pace, stop for photos and enjoy a relaxed door-to-door journey through some of Switzerland’s most iconic alpine scenery.

Guided private city tour with the most important Lucerne sights. In addition, the non-tourist areas of the city are shown exclusively with local guides.

Cruise through typically Swiss villages and explore the hidden gems without the tourist crowd. The most unique and fun way for a discovery ride, even if it`s your first time on an e-bike.

Join me on a journey through Switzerland’s hidden gems, guided by my deep passion for nature and the mountains. your day with an early pick-up. , as we set off for an unforgettable hike in the Lucerne region. Our adventure features a 4-hour hike through stunning alpine landscapes, showcasing the best of the Swiss Alps. Along the way, we’ll enjoy a packed lunch amidst nature’s beauty. After the hike, we’ll relax by a beautiful lake. If the weather is favorable, you’ll have the chance to take a refreshing dip or enjoy a lakeside grill to conclude the day. Private Tour: For a more intimate experience, the private tour allows full customization. Tailor the hike and pace to your preferences for a day designed around you. Shared Group: For a social adventure, the shared tour accommodates up to 8 people. It’s perfect for exploring while meeting new friends. we ask that everyone keep a comfortable pace that suits the group. Book now for an unforgettable Swiss hiking experience!

Spectacular trip to the impressive glacier world on TITLIS. Come and visit our year-round winter wonderland. Mount TITLIS is the only publicly accessible glacier in the area. Cast your gaze over the surrounding mountains and valleys, and enjoy the stunning panoramic view. The new 8-seater gondola brings you from the Valley Station in Engelberg directly to the station Stand. From there you take the TITLIS ROTAIR, the world’s first revolving cable car, to the summit.

Lucerne Old Town tour with chocolate tastings in local confiseries – history meets sweet delight! Discover the timeless charm of Lucerne on a guided walking tour that blends culture, history, and indulgence. Stroll through the city’s most iconic landmarks, including the historic Chapel Bridge, the stunning Jesuit Church, and the impressive St. Leodegar Church. Along the way, you’ll stop at a selection of local confiseries—traditional Swiss chocolate shops—where you’ll sample a variety of handcrafted chocolates, from smooth pralines to unique seasonal specialties. This experience is perfect for curious travelers who want to explore Lucerne through both its sights and its flavors. - See landmarks such as Chapel Bridge, Jesuit Church, and St. Leodegar Church - Experience Lucerne’s Old Town through its rich history and delicious Swiss chocolate - Enjoy a small-group experience with an expert local guide

This SELF-GUIDED trip allows you to combine the most popular mountain excursion of the Swiss, with a scenic boat ride and some relaxing hours at the Rigi Kaltbad Mineral Baths & Spa, which delivers an exclusive wellness experience surrounded by a legendary Alpine landscape. - After arriving in Vitznau, you can take the cogwheel train ascent to Rigi Kulm (departing every hour at xx:15) - Enjoy the 360-degree panoramas on Rigi Kulm, summit of the Rigi! Don't forget to discover the multiple photo points. - Take the train (departing every hour at xx:00) in direction of Vitznau, get off at Rigi Kaltbad, the world-class Kaltbad Mineralbad & Spa is just in front of you - Dip in and spend some relaxing hours in Mineral bath  - Take the next connecting train to Vitznau or cable car to Weggis

Join a Local for a leisurely 2-hour exploration of Lucerne, discovering the city's charming spots all while sampling delicious Swiss chocolates. Taste a variety of chocolates from different chocolatiers. Immerse yourself in Lucerne’s everyday charm as you stroll through scenic, quaint neighbourhoods, while your Local guide shares captivating stories and insider tips. From delightful chocolate tastings to scenic neighbourhood strolls, this experience with a Local is a must-do for those seeking an authentic taste of Lucerne. • Discover Lucerne's charm and stories with a Local. • Sample delicious Swiss chocolates from different chocolatiers. • Stroll through picturesque neighbourhoods. • Get tips on the best cafes and cuisine.

Venture from Lucerne through the Swiss Alps to the highest point in Europe! On this unforgettable day trip with a multi-lingual guide, travel by coach through the Bernese Oberland region to Interlaken and Grindelwald, where you take the gondola and cogwheel train up the UNESCO World Heritage-listed Jungfraujoch mountain pass. Gaze upon the Alpine wonderland from the Top of Europe building and walk through the tunnels of a glacier at the Ice Palace. This is sure to be a highlight of your Switzerland vacation!

All tickets included – no reservations or hidden fees! Spend a day immersed in Switzerland’s natural beauty and charm. Begin in Lucerne, where you’ll stroll through the postcard-perfect Old Town, admire Chapel Bridge, and enjoy lake and mountain views. Next, board a panoramic train on the famous GoldenPass route for a breathtaking ride to Interlaken, with unforgettable views of snow-capped peaks, crystal-clear lakes, and idyllic countryside. In Interlaken, we’ll explore the town and admire stunning panoramas of the Jungfrau. You’ll also have free time to shop for Swiss chocolates, souvenirs, and local specialties. Relax with stress-free travel: we take care of everything so you can simply enjoy the journey. Perfect for first-time visitors, families, and anyone who loves epic scenery! - All-inclusive: transportation, GoldenPass train, guided tours - Panoramic train with incredible mountain and lake views - Guided visits in Lucerne & Interlaken with time for photos and shopping

Most travelers think they’ve seen Lucerne after crossing the Chapel Bridge and admiring the lake views. But what if I told you the city’s real charm hides in its narrow lanes, medieval walls, and stories only a local can share? Exploring alone, it’s easy to miss the history and details that make Lucerne unforgettable. You might leave thinking you’ve seen it all, while its true spirit stays just out of reach. Our Walking Tour in Lucerne changes that. Your guide tailors the experience to your interests, showing both iconic landmarks and hidden gems. Discover the authentic Lucerne, beyond the surface.

This tour is designed for small groups of up to 8 passengers, ensuring a personalized and immersive experience. For private tour, please select only 1 person when booking. The tour will be exclusively for you, no matter the group size (up to 8). We’ll pick you up from your accommodation and drop you off at the end of the day. This full-day excursion is dedicated to exploring Swiss nature, combining breathtaking landscapes and iconic Alpine scenery. We’ll visit: - Lake Lungern – for panoramic views of the turquoise lake and Alps. - St. Beatus Caves – to explore underground passages, waterfalls, and stalactites. - Grindelwald – stroll through a charming Alpine village and enjoy the mountain views. - Lauterbrunnen – to see dramatic cliffs and iconic waterfalls. - A swiss traditional village.

Visit Mt. Pilatus on a half-day tour by a scenic train ride, steepest cogwheel railway in the world, aerail cableway "Dragon Ride" and panorama gondola. Enjoy a mountain experience at 2132 meters above sea level Incredible view from Mount Pilatus over the Lake Lucerne and Swiss Alps Scenic train ride between Lucerne and Alpnachstad World's steepest cogwheel railway between Alpnachstad and Pilatus Kulm See the mountains and valleys from the panorama gondola and aerial cableway "Dragon Ride" between Kriens and Pilatus Kulm

Learn about the history of Lucerne, by walking and boat tour, and its love affair with chocolate on a 4-hour small group tour led by a local guide. See and learn how the chocolate is produced in Central Switzerland by visitng the most renowned chocolate Swiss Family company, you will sample the most delicious Swiss Chocolate in the Region. You'll also visit the most iconic landmarks in a very interesting walking tour around the most beautiful Swiss City. Round up your trip with a 1 hr. Boat experience around the gorgeous Lake Lucerne! Extend your chocolate tasting experience with an extra chocolate workshop and create your own 200 gr. chocolate bar! You’ll declare your creations “Swiss made” with pride.

In this half-day trip, we will explore the most charming villages along Lake Lucerne — Weggis, Vitznau, and Gersau—strolling through picturesque streets, historic churches, and lakeside promenades. Along the way, we will pass areas closely linked to the origins of Switzerland and its rich traditions. In Vitznau, there is the optional opportunity to take a short cable car ride for panoramic views of the lake and Alps (ticket paid separately in cash on site). This experience combines scenic beauty, local culture, and unforgettable lakeside vistas, offering a perfect glimpse of Central Switzerland and its historic landscapes.

*Operating from March 1, 2026 Short on time in Switzerland? Make the most of your day with this unforgettable tour! Travel in comfort in a modern van and explore four countries in one day. For private tour, please select only 1 person when booking. The tour will be exclusively for you, regardless of group size (up to 8). Start at the majestic Rhine Falls, where a short boat ride takes you close to the powerful cascades. Then stroll the charming streets and waterfront of Lindau, followed by a scenic visit to Bregenz on Lake Constance. Finally, explore Vaduz, the capital of Liechtenstein, with its colorful streets, Vaduz Castle, and the Cathedral of St. Florin. - Visit 4 countries: Switzerland, Germany, Austria & Liechtenstein - Boat ride at Rhine Falls for a close-up experience - Discover the towns of Lindau and Bregenz - Explore Vaduz Castle and Cathedral of St. Florin - Travel by comfortable van with hotel pickup and drop-off

Towering over the city of Lucerne like a monument to the Swiss wilderness, Mt. Pilatus is a must-visit for nature lovers. This stunning massif boasts several stunning peaks, set within a playground of soaring rock faces, lush rolling valleys, and a network of meandering emerald lakes. The tallest peak in the group, Mt. Pilatus, reaches a heady 2,132 meters above sea level, and is beloved by visitors for its sensational views over the region. We’ll take you to the heart of the sights, with opportunities to explore the Lake of Lucerne, Pilatus summit, and ride the famous dragon aerial cable cars.

Embark on an scenic journey starting from Lucerne boat pier 1, just across from the bustling Lucerne train station. Departure times for this self-guided tour are as follows: 09:12, 10:12, 12:00, 14:12, and 15:12 of the cruise company, SGV. Upon arriving at Vitznau by boat, seamlessly transition to the connecting train that will whisk you to the summit of majestic Mount Rigi. Take a leisurely stroll, approximately 35 minutes, or opt for the hourly train descent to Rigi Kaltbad. At this place, where relaxation knows no bounds, no reservations or time constraints are required. From the tranquil Kaltbad, set your journey back by catching the sustainable cogwheel train return to Vitznau at 15:15, 16:15, or 17:15 to connect with the boat ride back to Lucerne. Alternatively, take the cable car at 16:10, 16:40, 17:10, or 17:40, from Kaltbad bound for Weggis. Should inclement weather or maintenance caused the closure of the cable car, the train to Vitznau stands ready as an alternative.

Explore Mt. Rigi on a fully guided majestic roundtrip from Lucerne! Experience different means of transportation on a scenic cruise on Lake Lucerne, a memorable ride with Europe’s first ever mountain railway and an aerial cable car. Take in the stunning 360-degree panoramic view of the Swiss Alps and opt for one of the many hiking trails against a vast mountain backdrop.

Discover Lucerne and Lake Lucerne on a relaxing 1-hour panoramic sightseeing cruise. Enjoy breathtaking views of the city, the surrounding mountains, and famous landmarks along the shoreline. Board the boat at Pier 7 at Schweizerhofquai, directly opposite the Hotel Schweizerhof Lucerne. Choose your preferred seating on the open upper deck, the main deck, or inside the comfortable onboard restaurant, where food and drinks are available during the cruise. Cruise along the shores of Lake Lucerne and enjoy views of the illuminated city, elegant lakeside villas, and attractions such as Meggenhorn Castle, the Bürgenstock, and the Richard Wagner Museum. Relax on the water, take stunning photos, and enjoy a peaceful sightseeing experience. This panoramic cruise is perfect for first-time visitors, short stays, couples, families, and locals who want to rediscover Lucerne from the water. The 1-hour boat tour ends back at Pier 7 in Lucerne.

Sometimes there simply isn't enough time to spend an entire day on magnificent Lake Lucerne, but for those moments we are pleased to offer convenient short cruises. These still allow you to enjoy the best of the lake and get a feel for the fantastic mountain landscape in the heart of the Swiss Alps. We recommend the round-trip journey from Lucerne to Kehrsiten-Bürgenstock and back aboard our elegant catamaran. Just stay on the ship when it docks at the Kehrsiten-Bürgenstock pier, for the immediate return to Lucerne. Snacks and drinks can be purchased at a vending machine on board.

Visit Lake Lucerne and Mt. Pilatus on a half-day tour by boat, steepest cogwheel railway in the world, aerail cableway "Dragon Ride" and panorama gondola. Enjoy a mountain experience at 2132 meters above sea level Incredible view from Mount Pilatus over the Lake Lucerne and Swiss Alps Scenic cruise on Lake Lucerne World's steepest cogwheel railway between Alpnachstad and Pilatus Kulm See the mountains and valleys from the panorama gondola and aerial cableway "Dragon Ride" between Kriens and Pilatus Kulm This is not a guided tour and there is no meeting point. Please check the timetable carefully, escpecially for the boat connections (2 - 5 boat depatrues per day). The Round Trip can be taken in both directions